Comments on: Why haven’t the Search Engines banned blackhat sites? http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/ (Were you expecting a witty tagline?) Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:47:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: James Lewitzke http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-105 James Lewitzke Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:51:07 +0000 http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-105 Well, if the reason they keep them in their main index is to have a better understanding of who is trying to "game the system", then why not place them in the secondary or supplemental index then? It's not like most of the blackhat webmasters will *know* whether they're being penalized or not. Well, if the reason they keep them in their main index is to have a better understanding of who is trying to “game the system”, then why not place them in the secondary or supplemental index then?

It’s not like most of the blackhat webmasters will *know* whether they’re being penalized or not.

]]> By: mik http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-104 mik Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:51:14 +0000 http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-104 The same logic, whilst pliable it is doubtful, as them "having fun" by letting people exploit their system; see who can actually do it. This then leads onto my point of how to stop them doing that. Then the cycle returns. Only way to know is to ask them ;) Would be interesting to see the truth and how close or far we are with our opinions. The same logic, whilst pliable it is doubtful, as them “having fun” by letting people exploit their system; see who can actually do it. This then leads onto my point of how to stop them doing that. Then the cycle returns.

Only way to know is to ask them ;) Would be interesting to see the truth and how close or far we are with our opinions.

]]> By: Adam Senour http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-103 Adam Senour Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:22:08 +0000 http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-103 I don't think that's the reason they ikeep blackhat sites in the public index. They can still use BH sites as sources of information and pick out things (e.g. most of the BS that comes from Michael Gray) without having to index it. I've always been of the mindset that they keep a few in as red herrings to convince webmasters that shortcuts <em>do</em> work. This gives them a better idea of who's screwing around and who isn't. I don't really agree with the logic, but it's the only one that I can come up with that makes any kind of sense. I don’t think that’s the reason they ikeep blackhat sites in the public index. They can still use BH sites as sources of information and pick out things (e.g. most of the BS that comes from Michael Gray) without having to index it.

I’ve always been of the mindset that they keep a few in as red herrings to convince webmasters that shortcuts do work. This gives them a better idea of who’s screwing around and who isn’t. I don’t really agree with the logic, but it’s the only one that I can come up with that makes any kind of sense.

]]> By: mik http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-102 mik Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:51:20 +0000 http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/02/01/why-havent-the-search-engines-banned-blackhat-sites/#comment-102 Actually, these blackhat sites help the search engines to counter the manipulation of their service. They provide the details of how to do x, y and z so companies like Google can build effective methods of killing it. If they were to ban these sites, they risk loosing the ability to learn and adapt as fast. That said, after the search engine has exhausted its counter-measures, it would be an idea to ban the site. Actually, these blackhat sites help the search engines to counter the manipulation of their service. They provide the details of how to do x, y and z so companies like Google can build effective methods of killing it. If they were to ban these sites, they risk loosing the ability to learn and adapt as fast.

That said, after the search engine has exhausted its counter-measures, it would be an idea to ban the site.

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