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		<title>By: alsatech</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2905</link>
		<dc:creator>alsatech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 19:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course nobody will answer your "ranting" because for that they will need an evidence, which they cannot provide because for morons Mods banning is not about us being guilty but about hating people who are smarter than them. Did I just created an oxymoron: DP member / smart?

If it will makes you feel better, you are not alone. I got the same 3 month ban reason as you had and when I came back and asked them for evidence or at least asked them to tell me what is the name of my "alleged" second account, they just ban me for good.
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?s=88dd073ddb2381fc3b4c3520049ac83c&#38;t=1622503

IMHO, DP became just another Classified Ads Forum, therefor if you have something for sale, DP is the place to be but other than that, you are lucky they banned you :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course nobody will answer your &#8220;ranting&#8221; because for that they will need an evidence, which they cannot provide because for morons Mods banning is not about us being guilty but about hating people who are smarter than them. Did I just created an oxymoron: DP member / smart?</p>
<p>If it will makes you feel better, you are not alone. I got the same 3 month ban reason as you had and when I came back and asked them for evidence or at least asked them to tell me what is the name of my &#8220;alleged&#8221; second account, they just ban me for good.<br />
<a href="http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?s=88dd073ddb2381fc3b4c3520049ac83c&amp;t=1622503" rel="nofollow">http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?s=88dd073ddb2381fc3b4c3520049ac83c&amp;t=1622503</a></p>
<p>IMHO, DP became just another Classified Ads Forum, therefor if you have something for sale, DP is the place to be but other than that, you are lucky they banned you <img src='http://www.lightningshock.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: DigitalPoint Sucks</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>DigitalPoint Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason for the hate is very simple. The moderators there treat many people like garbage. I haven't seen the amount of hatred towards Digitalpoint against any other forum and there is good reason for it - not anything about jealousy. I don't even know Shawn. After my experience, I don't care to know Digitalpoint. Fortunately there are many alternatives that are more productive and I haven't looked back. Go read www.fuckdigitalpoint.com - people are furious because they've spent good time there, Fanning got his money from traffic, the moderators made theirs from pushing products and there has been dumping on many honest, smart people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason for the hate is very simple. The moderators there treat many people like garbage. I haven&#8217;t seen the amount of hatred towards Digitalpoint against any other forum and there is good reason for it - not anything about jealousy. I don&#8217;t even know Shawn. After my experience, I don&#8217;t care to know Digitalpoint. Fortunately there are many alternatives that are more productive and I haven&#8217;t looked back. Go read <a href="http://www.fuckdigitalpoint.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fuckdigitalpoint.com</a> - people are furious because they&#8217;ve spent good time there, Fanning got his money from traffic, the moderators made theirs from pushing products and there has been dumping on many honest, smart people.</p>
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		<title>By: seoprince</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2735</link>
		<dc:creator>seoprince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys, I think this place is so full of hatred that, even if a bee, who had touched the dp flower comes here, will be burnt to death. And thats pathetic. What you guys exactly want to prove. "Digital Point sucks??" gimme a break. It is by far the best seo forum out there. And one pissed off idiot, all of a sudden after getting banned from a forum comes up and gorges out his anger... its just not done. I've been in that forum for quite some time. And I think the overzealous forums, who simply can not stand DP's success, should restrain themselves from misleading people  through such blog posts. I know you will delete my post. I know you cowards simply do not have enough guts to provide a space to a speaker neutrally.. and thats the difference between you and DP. They allows every one a space to share their views. Thats where they stand out. So if you dare to let my post get live, I would feel really great to have rubbed off at least some sporting attitude to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys, I think this place is so full of hatred that, even if a bee, who had touched the dp flower comes here, will be burnt to death. And thats pathetic. What you guys exactly want to prove. &#8220;Digital Point sucks??&#8221; gimme a break. It is by far the best seo forum out there. And one pissed off idiot, all of a sudden after getting banned from a forum comes up and gorges out his anger&#8230; its just not done. I&#8217;ve been in that forum for quite some time. And I think the overzealous forums, who simply can not stand DP&#8217;s success, should restrain themselves from misleading people  through such blog posts. I know you will delete my post. I know you cowards simply do not have enough guts to provide a space to a speaker neutrally.. and thats the difference between you and DP. They allows every one a space to share their views. Thats where they stand out. So if you dare to let my post get live, I would feel really great to have rubbed off at least some sporting attitude to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Young Geez</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2733</link>
		<dc:creator>Young Geez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DP administrators and moderators act like they are godlike. For now on, I will probably never return to DP after getting accused of scamming and getting banned for 3 months because the guy didn’t understand me, and continued to flame me after I got banned for no reason. I think all the admins and mods need to get a life because they act like they own the community. The owner already has a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DP administrators and moderators act like they are godlike. For now on, I will probably never return to DP after getting accused of scamming and getting banned for 3 months because the guy didn’t understand me, and continued to flame me after I got banned for no reason. I think all the admins and mods need to get a life because they act like they own the community. The owner already has a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Neonrider</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2661</link>
		<dc:creator>Neonrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,

I am "NEONRIDER" that posted a handful of posts on DigitalPoint forum in the past. Never offended anyone, no breaking the rules, but today whemn I went there to state the fact about many faults with Amazon Affiliate website I realised I was being logged in yet logged out immuiediately. The only explanation I wAs banned. Not only that. When I tried to register again I kept on getting the following error:
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Fatal error: Existing data passed is not an array
Called set_existing in /home/sites/forums.digitalpoint.com/web/register.php on line 385
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I don't have to go to DP ever again, just wanted to post this for a record. DP Forums is on my "blacklist" now. And that is a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>I am &#8220;NEONRIDER&#8221; that posted a handful of posts on DigitalPoint forum in the past. Never offended anyone, no breaking the rules, but today whemn I went there to state the fact about many faults with Amazon Affiliate website I realised I was being logged in yet logged out immuiediately. The only explanation I wAs banned. Not only that. When I tried to register again I kept on getting the following error:<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Fatal error: Existing data passed is not an array<br />
Called set_existing in /home/sites/forums.digitalpoint.com/web/register.php on line 385<br />
in /includes/class_dm.php on line 235<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to go to DP ever again, just wanted to post this for a record. DP Forums is on my &#8220;blacklist&#8221; now. And that is a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: noah</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator>noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed up to digital point a couple of years ago to sell a site. However I wanted to sell the site quickly and did not have the time for the 2 week waiting period so I left and just sold on Sitepoint. Over a year later when I got back into websites I resigned up for DP. I did not even remember I had my old account. It had no activity and had not been touched in ages. But when I signed up again I was an active member. I had good itrader and was getting a lot of posts. It was then that some ahole on the site accused me of selling warez and reported me despite my reciept and permission to sell what I was selling. His report got the mods attention and when I emailed him asking for him to stop with his false allegations he reported me for dupe accounts. Got me banned. Several of the mods took my side and agreed that I should not be banned. But a few of them insisted that I stay banned so that I did. So because of some asshole member and a stupid rule I get banned for life and they lose an active and helpful member. I am not sure how it makes sense to ban their best members.

For a while I tried making some other accounts. But I was banned for a plethora of reasons. One time I asked a mod if I could close a thread and restart it. I was told yes but when I did so I got banned because another asshole member (who happened to become a mod a couple months later) said I was trying to rip people off by having 2 topics (makes sense right?!?) Since they do not let you dispute bans I could not point out how I had permission.

Then I had an account where I posted a thread in the suggestions forum in which I said they shoud allow banned users to file a dispute because of a lot of accidental or sketchy bans. Ironically another member was a dupe account who commented and somebody called him out on it. The mods are so damn stupid that they thought he was talking about me instead of the other guy so I got banned. However another member was able to get me unbanned for that one. But that still goes to show how damn stupid they are.

I could go on all day long about the stupid bans I have had. And all of the bullshit infractions for nothing at all (including 8 points in one day with not a single rule broken. and for all you fag DP supporters no i was not breaking any rules and that includes their no bumping rules. i pmed a mod arguing the infractions and when I said that I would wait off the points she responded by banning me and  under the reason she said something like "this ban will make sure you wait off the points")

But DP is bad for more then the mods and bs bans. If you go to the politics and religion discussion you will see the most racist and hatred filled posts ever on any site out there. Members like guerilla and grim are some of the biggest asses on the site that are not mod related. Not only are they extreme racists but they argue like little kids. Instead of debating they call you names and ignore your points because they know they are wrong. I once PM'ed the mods about them and how they shoudl be banned by the DP rules and the mods replied defending them and said that their name calling was not directed at me but at my ideas so it was not the same. But I am pretty sure when somebody specifically says "you are a fucking retard" that it is an attack and that qualifies as their automatic ban for personal attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up to digital point a couple of years ago to sell a site. However I wanted to sell the site quickly and did not have the time for the 2 week waiting period so I left and just sold on Sitepoint. Over a year later when I got back into websites I resigned up for DP. I did not even remember I had my old account. It had no activity and had not been touched in ages. But when I signed up again I was an active member. I had good itrader and was getting a lot of posts. It was then that some ahole on the site accused me of selling warez and reported me despite my reciept and permission to sell what I was selling. His report got the mods attention and when I emailed him asking for him to stop with his false allegations he reported me for dupe accounts. Got me banned. Several of the mods took my side and agreed that I should not be banned. But a few of them insisted that I stay banned so that I did. So because of some asshole member and a stupid rule I get banned for life and they lose an active and helpful member. I am not sure how it makes sense to ban their best members.</p>
<p>For a while I tried making some other accounts. But I was banned for a plethora of reasons. One time I asked a mod if I could close a thread and restart it. I was told yes but when I did so I got banned because another asshole member (who happened to become a mod a couple months later) said I was trying to rip people off by having 2 topics (makes sense right?!?) Since they do not let you dispute bans I could not point out how I had permission.</p>
<p>Then I had an account where I posted a thread in the suggestions forum in which I said they shoud allow banned users to file a dispute because of a lot of accidental or sketchy bans. Ironically another member was a dupe account who commented and somebody called him out on it. The mods are so damn stupid that they thought he was talking about me instead of the other guy so I got banned. However another member was able to get me unbanned for that one. But that still goes to show how damn stupid they are.</p>
<p>I could go on all day long about the stupid bans I have had. And all of the bullshit infractions for nothing at all (including 8 points in one day with not a single rule broken. and for all you fag DP supporters no i was not breaking any rules and that includes their no bumping rules. i pmed a mod arguing the infractions and when I said that I would wait off the points she responded by banning me and  under the reason she said something like &#8220;this ban will make sure you wait off the points&#8221;)</p>
<p>But DP is bad for more then the mods and bs bans. If you go to the politics and religion discussion you will see the most racist and hatred filled posts ever on any site out there. Members like guerilla and grim are some of the biggest asses on the site that are not mod related. Not only are they extreme racists but they argue like little kids. Instead of debating they call you names and ignore your points because they know they are wrong. I once PM&#8217;ed the mods about them and how they shoudl be banned by the DP rules and the mods replied defending them and said that their name calling was not directed at me but at my ideas so it was not the same. But I am pretty sure when somebody specifically says &#8220;you are a fucking retard&#8221; that it is an attack and that qualifies as their automatic ban for personal attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: James Lewitzke</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2618</link>
		<dc:creator>James Lewitzke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't write the post to be especially critical of minute details the DP forum shares. Nor do I expect anybody to take each individual point to heart.

I wrote the post as a marketing method to open a bag (or can of worms, as some may wish to call it), which arose much needed awareness to not only newbie webmasters, but also seasoned veterans whom may not see the larger picture. Through this medium I was able to shed a light on a problem whose roots run deep throughout the IM industry itself. And DP could be considered the flagship form of this sort of typical SEO logic (Not that I expect many will agree with me on this immediately, nor do I ask them to...)

BTW though, very nice looking forum. Much better than the (non)creative "oh-I'll-just-swap-a-few-of-the-default-skin-colors-around" look that DP has going for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t write the post to be especially critical of minute details the DP forum shares. Nor do I expect anybody to take each individual point to heart.</p>
<p>I wrote the post as a marketing method to open a bag (or can of worms, as some may wish to call it), which arose much needed awareness to not only newbie webmasters, but also seasoned veterans whom may not see the larger picture. Through this medium I was able to shed a light on a problem whose roots run deep throughout the IM industry itself. And DP could be considered the flagship form of this sort of typical SEO logic (Not that I expect many will agree with me on this immediately, nor do I ask them to&#8230;)</p>
<p>BTW though, very nice looking forum. Much better than the (non)creative &#8220;oh-I&#8217;ll-just-swap-a-few-of-the-default-skin-colors-around&#8221; look that DP has going for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Will.Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2611</link>
		<dc:creator>Will.Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that DP does suck, although my list of 100 reasons shares only a few entries with your list of 100 reasons.

Unfortunately, most of the startups who have risen up to take over where DP has failed have not lasted long.

DigitalPointSucks.com, for example, now points to a parked page.

Building a community is a long process.  DP is currently coasting on the work Shawn did years ago, before he abandoned DP to the current "mods".

It will be years until another community is able to grow to the point where it can effectively replace DP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that DP does suck, although my list of 100 reasons shares only a few entries with your list of 100 reasons.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, most of the startups who have risen up to take over where DP has failed have not lasted long.</p>
<p>DigitalPointSucks.com, for example, now points to a parked page.</p>
<p>Building a community is a long process.  DP is currently coasting on the work Shawn did years ago, before he abandoned DP to the current &#8220;mods&#8221;.</p>
<p>It will be years until another community is able to grow to the point where it can effectively replace DP.</p>
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		<title>By: Pranab</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2601</link>
		<dc:creator>Pranab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 14:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hadn't used my DP account for a couple of months now, so I was surprised when I received a reply to a thread I knew I never posted on. Turned out someone else had accessed my dormant account, and posted a overly-positive report for some product that was being sold.
I'm not entirely sure how the person got access to my DP account - since (I actually coded a popular encryption/security app) I never ever use weak passwords. I suspect either someone had stolen data using malware/cookies, or that a Mod was involved).
Anyway, I logged on to DP, and found two posts made from my account. 
I took the following steps:
1) Changed my DP password
2) Posted on the thread, that people should disregard my positive review.
3) Edited the most recent of the fake posts (using strikeout)
4) Reported the other post of mine to the Mods, with an explanation and request to delete it.

The next day I log in to DP to see what's been done, and what do I find?

1) The fake post with the glowing review has been kept, but my post alerting people to the fake post has been removed!
2) I am now banned permanently for Multiple Accounts.

Huh? Multiple accounts? I never had a multiple account anywhere in my life. Also I suspect this is not a mistake, since my positive review was kept and the later post removed; I fully suspect that atleast one DP Mod is being a bit dishonest here.

The best part is that if you have been incorrectly banned for multiple accounts, how do you let a Mod know? You cant even create a fresh account since now that would be a ToS violation! And e-mail to webmaster/support/whois just bounces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t used my DP account for a couple of months now, so I was surprised when I received a reply to a thread I knew I never posted on. Turned out someone else had accessed my dormant account, and posted a overly-positive report for some product that was being sold.<br />
I&#8217;m not entirely sure how the person got access to my DP account - since (I actually coded a popular encryption/security app) I never ever use weak passwords. I suspect either someone had stolen data using malware/cookies, or that a Mod was involved).<br />
Anyway, I logged on to DP, and found two posts made from my account.<br />
I took the following steps:<br />
1) Changed my DP password<br />
2) Posted on the thread, that people should disregard my positive review.<br />
3) Edited the most recent of the fake posts (using strikeout)<br />
4) Reported the other post of mine to the Mods, with an explanation and request to delete it.</p>
<p>The next day I log in to DP to see what&#8217;s been done, and what do I find?</p>
<p>1) The fake post with the glowing review has been kept, but my post alerting people to the fake post has been removed!<br />
2) I am now banned permanently for Multiple Accounts.</p>
<p>Huh? Multiple accounts? I never had a multiple account anywhere in my life. Also I suspect this is not a mistake, since my positive review was kept and the later post removed; I fully suspect that atleast one DP Mod is being a bit dishonest here.</p>
<p>The best part is that if you have been incorrectly banned for multiple accounts, how do you let a Mod know? You cant even create a fresh account since now that would be a ToS violation! And e-mail to webmaster/support/whois just bounces.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.lightningshock.com/2008/04/20/a-digital-point-discussion/#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should post that you host warez. I just read a post from a guy who says he doesn't care about laws and claims he's an offshore host. It seems they are allowing him to promote himself everywhere. I guess it pays to be illegitimate and disreputable at digitalpoint. Sad, sad, sad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should post that you host warez. I just read a post from a guy who says he doesn&#8217;t care about laws and claims he&#8217;s an offshore host. It seems they are allowing him to promote himself everywhere. I guess it pays to be illegitimate and disreputable at digitalpoint. Sad, sad, sad&#8230;</p>
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